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Post by Buppster on Sept 25, 2018 12:00:29 GMT -5
Everybody on the forum knows about Our Gang but do you know about the alternative version that existed in a parallel universe? Well here's your chance to own a piece of genuine fake alternative Our Gang memorabilia signed by ' Cissy' who was part of that mythical Our Gang line up from 1920 to 1929, which included Fatty, Farina, Darlene, Spanky, Freckles (famous for being the first head transplant boy to appear in movies) and of course Pete (the dog). Click on the link below if you wish to waste $4.99, as somehow I can't see it receiving many rival bids. I certainly won't be bidding on it. What a deluded liar Cissy was. She obviously had little or no respect for her so called friends, if she perpetrated fraud on them. Click on the link below for details of this stunning piece of fictitious rubbish. *Vintage Spanky and Our Gang poster -- signed by Cissy* |
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Post by mtw12055 on Sept 25, 2018 12:58:19 GMT -5
Everybody on the forum knows about Our Gang but do you know about the alternative version that existed in a parallel universe? Well here's your chance to own a piece of genuine fake alternative Our Gang memorabilia signed by ' Cissy' who was part of that mythical Our Gang line up from 1920 to 1929, which included Fatty, Farina, Darlene, Spanky, Freckles (famous for being the first head transplant boy to appear in movies) and of course Pete (the dog). Click on the link below if you wish to waste $4.99, as somehow I can't see it receiving many rival bids. I certainly won't be bidding on it. What a deluded liar Cissy was. She obviously had little or no respect for her so called friends, if she perpetrated fraud on them. Click on the link below for details of this stunning piece of fictitious rubbish. *Vintage Spanky and Our Gang poster -- signed by Cissy*Yep, certainly not the first time Cissy has shown up here.  |
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Post by Buppster on Sept 26, 2018 5:36:15 GMT -5
I can understand someone who is old getting a bit confused about events which happened sixty years or more earlier. I can understand that they might have been in some rival children's movie series or perhaps in one of those newspaper run local Our Gang lookalike gangs. Mistakes happen and they conflate 'their' gang tenure with being in the real Our Gang but in your photograph she is actually posing with that fake photo and telling outright lies, perpetrating fraud, by claiming to be be someone who was really Mary Ann Jackson. Cissy knew for a bloody fact that she wasn't the girl in the photo but she claimed to her nevertheless, just as the fake Buckwheat, Joe Cobb and Harry Spear also did by producing childhood photos of the real Our Gang kids and claiming it was them, when they knew that it wasn't. Once again the fraudulent old cow did what the majority of those imposters do, she got all of their 'facts' mixed up. Wheezer becomes Spanky and Jean becomes Darlene. She probably didn't even know Joe Cobb's real name so she just used the old stock in trade 'Fatty' and likewise with 'Freckles,' although I can understand her confusion regarding him, due to the head transplant. You'd have though she'd have noticed that when she worked with him. Mind you if she had really been in Our Gang from 1920 to 1929, her dates put her two years before it started and before Mary Ann Jackson was even born. However I have no sympathy for any gullible idiots who bought into her story as even the minimum of research would expose it for what it truly was, a pack of ill constructed lies.
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Post by Buppster on Oct 21, 2018 5:44:35 GMT -5
Currently listed on eBay is a Press Photo of Spanky from back in 1936, before he ate the shark and became ginormous. Strangely his name is written on the back as Jack Kelley (Spanky). So maybe that McFarland guy was actually an imposter! For more details click on the link below.... *1936 Press Photo Spanky in Our Gang Comedy - lrz03232*  |
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Post by Buppster on Nov 3, 2018 7:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by Buppster on Nov 3, 2018 8:02:24 GMT -5
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Post by Buppster on Nov 6, 2018 10:17:45 GMT -5
A $3000 lot is up for sale as a 'Buy It Now' item at eBay. I won't be purchasing it because it's too expensive. It wouldn't fit me and I'm not entirely sure that it's precisely what it claims to be, not without further providence. Anyway it you're interesting in reading about our even owning a waistcoat (US: vest) purportedly once wore by Carl 'Alfalfa' Switzer at some point during his time at Our Gang click on the link below for more details.... *ALFALFA WORN clothing OUR GANG LITTLE RASCALS very young!! MGM CARL SWITZER RARE*  |
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Post by farina on Dec 2, 2018 21:31:06 GMT -5
I've bought many things from collectibles and his entirely legit. He has a massive collection that I can only dream of having.
That being said, it's hard to legitimize any item that does not have any other indication of authenticity.
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Post by Buppster on Dec 3, 2018 7:08:14 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the waistcoat is a fake. But just looking at the basic facts, it's a period waistcoat and it has a period MGM wardrobe label sewn onto it. I won't dispute that at all. However although that label may well have been sewn onto the waistcoat in the 1930s/1940s in the MGM wardrobe department, it could just as easily have been sewn onto the item at any point in time since then. It could have come from some other item, like for example a pair of gloves, from which it had been removed and then sewn onto the waistcoat. The only connection with Carl Switzer is a pencil written name 'ALFALFA' on the label. Again that might be original but it might have been added at any point since the 1940s. At the high asking price that it's being sold for personally I'd want clear and irrefutable evidence that it really was worn by Carl Switzer before I'd ever consider buying it. The seller has probably bought it in good faith, believing it to be a genuine piece of Alfalfa memorabilia, however believing something doesn't always make it true. Provence and proof are pretty essential with old items of that nature, without them you simply have an interesting item, which might or might not be what it purports to be.
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Post by farina on Dec 3, 2018 18:25:30 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the waistcoat is a fake. But just looking at the basic facts, it's a period waistcoat and it has a period MGM wardrobe label sewn onto it. I won't dispute that at all. However although that label may well have been sewn onto the waistcoat in the 1930s/1940s in the MGM wardrobe department, it could just as easily have been sewn onto the item at any point in time since then. It could have come from some other item, like for example a pair of gloves, from which it had been removed and then sewn onto the waistcoat. The only connection with Carl Switzer is a pencil written name 'ALFALFA' on the label. Again that might be original but it might have been added at any point since the 1940s. At the high asking price that it's being sold for personally I'd want clear and irrefutable evidence that it really was worn by Carl Switzer before I'd ever consider buying it. The seller has probably bought it in good faith, believing it to be a genuine piece of Alfalfa memorabilia, however believing something doesn't always make it true. Provence and proof are pretty essential with old items of that nature, without them you simply have an interesting item, which might or might not be what it purports to be. No doubt that something needs to be provided to support the assumption. Just the coat by itself with the word of the seller is not enough to spend that kind of money on. |
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Post by Buppster on Dec 3, 2018 19:01:34 GMT -5
The 'Alfalfa' waistcoat has been relisted on eBay and the asking price has now been halved to $1500. However even if it were reduced to a tenth of that it's still too much for me to even consider, without some corroborating evidence to support the claim that it was once worn by Alfalfa. It's not even accompanied by an old still photograph of him wearing it. I know that if I owned a piece of clothing that was once worn by a movie star on screen I'd hunt high and low to find a photo of them actually wearing it, as evidence that it really had been worn by that star in that particular movie. Anyway for anyone who might be tempted by the 50% reduction in the original asking price click on the link below for more details.... *ALFALFA WORN clothing OUR GANG LITTLE RASCALS very young!! MGM CARL SWITZER RARE* |
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Post by farina on Dec 3, 2018 19:29:28 GMT -5
If you were to talk to they guy he may be able to provide some collaborating evidence to back up his information. I'm not here to defend the guy because I have never met him personally but I have bought many things Our Gang related from him over the last few years and he's always been a more than willing participant.
Again just to clear things up, I have never met him personally but have spoken with him many times. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Buppster on Dec 3, 2018 20:12:54 GMT -5
Because of my disability I am unable to work and I subsist on benefits. So I don't have a great deal of disposable income, certainly not enough to spend tens of hundreds of dollars (plus import duties and shipping to Britain) on something that has no practical purpose. My favourite Our Gang related actor is Tommy Bupp and after him I really like Jack Davis, Harry Spear and Johnny Downs. Although I like Carl Switzer he's not one of my favourites so I don't buy items that are related to him.
I simply post items in this thread which I think might interest other members and visitors to the forum. They tend to be items that I've spotted on eBay and which are a bit different from the usual modern reprints of Rascals photos or Spanky & Darla condiment sets.
If the seller of the waistcoat has anything to corroborate the item, he'd be well advised to mention it in the item description, as then he'd be far more likely to make a sale.
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Post by farina on Dec 3, 2018 20:36:08 GMT -5
Because of my disability I am unable to work and I subsist on benefits. So I don't have a great deal of disposable income, certainly not enough to spend tens of hundreds of dollars (plus import duties and shipping to Britain) on something that has no practical purpose. My favourite Our Gang related actor is Tommy Bupp and after him I really like Jack Davis, Harry Spear and Johnny Downs. Although I like Carl Switzer he's not one of my favourites so I don't buy items that are related to him. I simply post items in this thread which I think might interest other members and visitors to the forum. They tend to be items that I've spotted on eBay and which are a bit different from the usual modern reprints of Rascals photos or Spanky & Darla condiment sets. If the seller of the waistcoat has anything to corroborate the item, he'd be well advised to mention it in the item description, as then he'd be far more likely to make a sale. I totally agree he should mention something in the item description. I personally would not buy something like this without proof myself either. And I understand not being able to afford spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on something that doesn't interested you. Cheers. |
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Post by Buppster on Dec 4, 2018 12:17:24 GMT -5
Yeah, if you want to sell an item the more information that you can provide about it the better the chance of creating interest and obtaining a sale. When it comes to items linked to movies, actors, rock stars or whatever some sort of provenance is absolutely essential. After all anyone could write 'Alfalfa' in pencil on a clothing label and there's no way to really put a firm date on when it was written. It might have been written in 1938 but it could just as easily have been written in1968, 1998 or 2018. There needs to be some form of proof to confirm the date. If there is some supporting evidence that can pin the date to 1938, 1939 or whenever then the likelihood is that it is the genuine article that it purports to be, but without that proof? It's just a name that could have been written at any time by anyone.
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