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Post by easternnc4me on Aug 17, 2014 20:33:12 GMT -5
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Post by easternnc4me on Aug 19, 2014 5:50:23 GMT -5
47 views so far and no opinions on what are the best available episodes of each?
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Post by mtw12055 on Aug 19, 2014 10:47:51 GMT -5
Hi, welcome to the forum. I was hoping someone that is probably more of an expert on this topic would add their two cents. In the meantime, I'll see what I can throw in: (by the way, most of the silent prints available on archive.org are antifrodis;' as with the bootleg DVDs you mentioned, these were put up on the archive without his permission). Bob DeMoss (our own ymymeatemup) has a website that mentions the various home video releases for the films. It hasn't been updated in a few years, but Bob is still gathering information for a possible future project. But there's still plenty of information on it to assist you. theluckycorner.com/A few other bits of info - 1. Our Gang - The print on that bootleg DVD you mentioned was originally put together by CW Films back in the 00's. It's the most complete version available right now. 2. Fire Fighters - I think it's a safe bet that the version Mark (OldNick08) posted is the best one. 3. Young Sherlocks - Ditto. 4. One Terrible Day - I think antifrodis' print is the most complete one available. If you'd prefer not to watch it (as it is a 'stolen' print), there is a decent-looking copy available on this DVD. However, it is missing footage. www.amazon.com/Mischief-Makers-Volume-Mary-Kornman/dp/B00BKUO4OM/ref=pd_bxgy_mov_img_z5. A Quiet Street - The only print available to the public right now is the cut down mentioned on theluckycorner's website. More footage is out there, but it lies in the hands of private collectors. 6. Saturday Morning - You'll have to be a little more specific with the print included on the DVD you bought. Antifrodis' print has quite a bit of footage (though the inter-titles aren't original). Again, if you'd prefer not to watch the version available on the archive, a decent-looking print (again, with footage missing) is available on this DVD. www.amazon.com/Mischief-Makers-Volume-Kornman-Farina/dp/B00BKUO30C/ref=pd_sim_mov_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0N6VYQWKJ5SJ0S7R02QPMore footage is out there, but as with A QUIET STREET, it lies in the hands of private collectors. I would definitely pick up the German set, as well as the ReelClassicDVD volumes. By the way, I've been putting together a list of the available material: littlerascals.proboards.com/thread/1370/existing-footage |
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Post by easternnc4me on Aug 19, 2014 11:20:30 GMT -5
Thank you for your reply. I have 2 boys (11 and 9) and a girl (6) that I've introduced to the talkies and they love it. Started with The Kid from Borneo and they were hooked. I don't think they will like the silent ones, but what I plan on doing for myself is watching all the episode available in chronological order as time permits and I would like to watch the best available. I read your post prior to creating mine. Your post is part of the reason for my post...to find and view the best available episodes. It didn't take me long to figure out that the ones Mark has posted is the best available versions. I wish all the episodes were available, but of the lost episodes and based on stills from Maltin and Bann's book, I believe Edison, Marconi & Co would be a sheer joy to watch.
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Post by antifrodis on Aug 19, 2014 12:14:05 GMT -5
First off, let me make it clear that while some of the films out there are derived from my edits, these edits, many times, were made with the generosity and help of fellow forum members and collectors that provided footage to me to work with. Most of it is not MY footage, so to speak. I just worked with it, with the intent of sharing what I was able to. I fully respect the wishes of the actual owners of said footage and always tried to stay within those boundaries.
Off the top of my head (seriously), here's what I remember...
1. Our Gang - the CW Films version is the best available. (The fact that this film has appeared on many bootleg sets could factor into why we haven't seen much else from CW Films treasure trove of footage!)
2. Fire Fighters - I agree that the OldNick08 version on Youtube appears to be the most complete.
3. Young Sherlocks - I did a similar edit to what OldNick08 did, but my version had a bit more footage. I've never made it public. Otherwise, his is the most complete available
4. One Terrible Day - The Exclusive films print that I have a transfer of is the most complete version I know of. I never made it public either, but apparently, someone else did.
5. A Quiet Street - I have a short bit of extra footage from this film, otherwise I have the same copy as everyone else.
6. Saturday Morning - My edit of this film has more footage than the common version. There is a nearly complete print with intertitles that is not publicly available.
7. The Big Show - I've got what everyone else has on this one
8. The Cobbler - I did an edit using the TCM aired version of the film along with some of my other sources. Not publicly available. Otherwise, the TCM airing or my old edit if you can find them.
9. The Champeen! - Not sure what's best on this.
10. Boys To Board - My old edit is the most complete available. I had it on Youtube at one point.
11. A Pleasant Journey - My old edit is the most complete, but also available without my permission. Cobbling this together with the TCM airing would be a good idea at some point.
12. Giants Vs Yanks - My old edit is the best publicly available. CW Films has mentioned possibly releasing a better print in the future.
13. Back Stage - I got what you got!
14. Dogs of War! - The Cabin Fever version is best.
15. Lodge Night - The complete Blackhawk Video print is best.
16. Fast Company - My old Youtube edit is probably most complete. I have some better quality footage, but never added it.
17. Stage Fright - My old edit is the most complete available.
18. July Days - I have a bit of extra footage for this one. Otherwise, whatever's out there is the best.
19. Sunday Calm - My current edit of this is most complete, but not publicly available. Otherwise, the ReelClassicDVD version is good.
20. No Noise - My latest edit is the most complete. This was something I posted to Youtube I believe.
21. Derby Day - Cabin Fever is the best source.
22. Tire Trouble - My latest edit is most complete. I don't think I made this public. I believe CW Films has a better source, also unavailable publicly
23. Big Business - I got what you got
24. The Buccaneers - My old edit is probably the most complete version.
25. Seein' Things - My latest edit is the most complete. The TCM airing was good, but missing some footage.
26. Commencement Day - My old edit is the most complete available
27. It's a Bear - My old edit is the most complete available.
28. Cradle Robbers - My old edit is the most complete available.
29. Jubilo Jr. - My latest edit is the most complete. My old one is probably floating out there someplace.
30. High Society - Not sure.
31. The Sundown Ltd - Not sure
32. Every Man For Himself - My old edit has the most footage.
33. Mysterious Mystery - I did an edit that has about 2 seconds of extra footage than whatever else is out there. Not publicly available
34. The Big Town - Not sure
35. Circus Fever - My latest edit is most complete. Not publicly available.
36. Dog Days - My old edit is probably the most complete. The TCM print was of better quality
37. The Love Bug - Not sure
38. Ask Grandma - My latest edit is most complete. Don't know if that got out there or not.
39. Shootin' Injuns - I don't know
40. Official Officers - I have what everyone else has
41. Mary Queen of Tots - I have what everyone else has
42. Boys Will Be Joys - Not sure
43. Better Movies - I did an edit of this last year, adding some missing footage and intertitles. Not available publicly.
44. Your Own Back Yard - My latest edit is most complete. This film was shared without my permission and was never meant to be available in that state.
45. One Wild Ride - My old edit is probably most complete.
46. Good Cheer - I did an edit of this film that is the most complete version, but never shared it. Otherwise, I'm not sure which version is best
47. Buried Treasure - The version on the Legend Films DVD is the best
48. Monkey Business - probably what you already have is best
49. Baby Clothes - ?
50. Uncle Tom's Uncle - Check "The Lucky Corner" website.
51. Thundering Fleas - My old edit was the most complete available.
52. Shivering Spooks - I don't know
53. The Fourth Alarm - Whatever's out there is good
54. War Feathers - My old edit was the most complete, but I think I left some footage out by accident.
55. Seeing the World - My most recent edit is the most complete. Not publicly available
56. Telling Whoppers - My most recent edit is the most complete. Not publicly available
57. Bring Home the Turkey - About 7 minutes of this film can be occasionally found on Ebay under the name "Turkey Troubles". Buy it, have it transferred to DVD, and you got what I've seen.
58. Ten Years Old - ReelClassicDVD's version is good.
59. Love My Dog - Whatever's out there. I forget
60. Tired Businessmen - Whatever's out there
61. Baby Brother - Cabin Fever version is best
62. Chicken Feed - I have an edit of this one that is the most complete. Not available to the public. Otherwise, what's on your booted set is best
63. Olympic Games - Dunno
64. Playin' Hookey - There are two bootlegged versions that, when pieced together, form a good chunk of the film. There is a more complete version that is publicly unavailable.
65. The Smile Wins - ReelClassicDVDs version.
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Post by mtw12055 on Aug 19, 2014 15:31:16 GMT -5
9. The Champeen! - I have yet to see the ReelClassic DVD version, but it's probably the best-looking. Otherwise, pretty much every print available in the home video market is nearly complete. 30. High Society - Probably ReelClassic. Most of the home video versions out there are nearly complete, save for the old Grapevine VHS release. 31. The Sundown Ltd - Again, probably ReelClassic. However, the version shown on TCM does include a few seconds of footage missing from the commonly seen prints (which are nearly complete). 34. The Big Town - Probably ReelClassic. 37. The Love Bug - I'm only familiar with an edited TV print released through A-1 Video years ago. There's probably more footage out there. But if you're interested in the TV print, it's available on Rascals Silents Vol. 2: www.a-1video.com/Silentcom.htm39. Shootin' Injuns - Probably the A-1 print. 42. Boys Will Be Joys - Theluckycorner doesn't mention this, but the A-1 Video print actually has some footage not included in the Grapevine print. Also (and theluckycorner does mention this), the A-1 print has somewhat better quality than the Grapevine print. However, the Grapevine print does have an inter-title missing from the A-1 print. 46. Good Cheer - I'm guessing the ReelClassic print. 48. Monkey Business - As antifrodis said, probably what you already have is best. There is a TV print floating around that supposedly has a few additional inter-titles. 49. Baby Clothes - As mentioned on theluckycorner, the Grapevine print is probably the best. 52. Shivering Spooks - The ReelClassic print is probably the best-looking. However, the Grapevine print has about 2 seconds of additional footage. 59. Love My Dog - The ReelClassic is probably the best. 60. Tired Businessmen - Mark's version on YoutTube is probably the best. 63. Olympic Games - The commonly-seen Grapevine print is the best we have right now. I suppose the version shown on TCM (which is from the same source) looks better. Either way, both prints are missing some footage. 64. The Glorious Fourth - Combining the various prints mentioned on theluckycorner would probably get you a nearly complete print. |
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Post by myhomeo on Aug 19, 2014 16:39:03 GMT -5
To be honest, I'd assumed the OP was a robo-ad or something selling DVDs. Didn't realize it was someone requesting information. Sorry.
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Post by easternnc4me on Aug 19, 2014 17:24:51 GMT -5
Antifrodis and mtw12055, thank you both for your replies. It is much appreciated and is very helpful. I thought I had a Grapevine VHS that I had bought years ago, but I went rummaging for it a few minutes ago and found what I have are VHS tapes from Video Yesteryear. Tape #1242 The Return of Our Gang (Stage Fright, the Cobbler, and Dog Days), Tape #1259 Our Gang Si Sic Omnes'- Tire Trouble, It's a Bear" and tape # 1273- Hail Hail Our Gangs All Here- The Pickaninny, Monkey Business, and The Fraidy Cat." All 3 say organ music by Rosa Rio. Also have a Video Dimensions VHS with Shivering Spooks, Big Business, Buccaneers, Lodge Night as well as the talkies Bear Shooters and Schools Out. Have the Cabin Fever VHS volumes 13 through 21 as well. I need to find the time to use the VHS-DVD recorder to make a DVD backup of them. Myhomeo, not a Robo-Ad. Truly a Our Gang/Little Rascals fan. Started with the King World TV airings (like most of you I assume) and progressed from there. And I'm not selling any of my DVDs or VHS tapes.
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Post by antifrodis on Aug 19, 2014 22:24:58 GMT -5
I accidentally skipped "The Glorious Fourth". My edit from Youtube is probably the most complete. I did just what mtw suggested in this case. I don't know if anyone bothered to copy that one off and circulate it.
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