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Post by mickeygubitosifan on Jun 6, 2011 0:08:07 GMT -5
I guess that the medicine cabinet scene in Big Ears never occurred to me as presenting a particularly dubious example for younger viewers. Wheezer never actually imbibes anything that is brought to him from the cabinet; at least, not as far as we see. Stymie is the only one who tries any of the substances, and all that he gets for it is a mouth full of turpentine. The way I see it, that's not likely to make drinking unidentified liquids from the medicine cabinet seem very appealing to kids. The presence of the castor oil wouldn't make the contents of the cabinet seem any more pleasant, especially not to kids of the film's era, when use of castor oil as a health booster for kids was common.
I can see how television censors might get nervous about Big Ears, though, and decide to play it safe.
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Post by bigshotjones on Jun 11, 2011 17:10:29 GMT -5
I never, ever saw "The First Seven Years" or "Lazy Days" until the Cabin Fever series came out. I saw all the other Roach talkies, including "A Tough Winter," although I have to say that I saw that one only once.
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Post by zootmoney on Jun 11, 2011 17:23:49 GMT -5
That is odd. I grew up in Virginia, in the '70s, and "The First Seven Years" was on regularly. I do not remember seeing "Lazy Days" or "A Tough Winter."
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Post by bigshotjones on Jun 12, 2011 6:29:14 GMT -5
I saw them in SC on stations out of Columbia and Greenville. I saw "A Tough Winter" on the Greenville station (WFBC then, now WYFF), but, again, only once. Possibly they both aired "Lazy Days" and "The First Seven Years," and I missed them. WFBC also aired the "Mischief Makers." Once I did see those other two, my thoughts were: "Lazy Days" was no great loss. I just didn't find it funny. And for "The First Seven Years" I was thnking, "Dang! Swordfights in "The Little Rascals!" No wonder I've never seen this one."
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Post by mtw12055 on Nov 18, 2013 12:49:11 GMT -5
An syndicated print of "Little Sinner" from King World. The baptism sequence is cut, bringing the film down to a one-reeler. Funny how the TV editors showed no care in how their final cut looked.
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Post by myhomeo on Nov 20, 2013 17:34:26 GMT -5
I never saw a lot of the deleted scenes until the recent LITTLE RASCALS DVD set came out so they often play to me like these weird intrusions. We're bopping along, the Rascals are doing their thing, then suddenly there's a kid in blackface or some 'Feets don't fail me now!' reaction from a Black extra.
As for 'Little Daddy,' what I personally find most offensive about it is that Miss Crabtree is brought in to solve the problem. Come on, the kids' pastor, who'd certainly know and have more standing in their community, can't find them a home but Miss Crabtree's supposed to be able to manage it? Oh, yeah. Of course. She's white.
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Post by puddinntane on Nov 23, 2013 20:27:57 GMT -5
I grew up in the San Francisco area in the 1970s. KBHK Channel 44 showed the Rascals at this time. Sacramento station Ch. 40 also showed the films.
I never saw the following Roach-era talkies until Blackhawk released them to home video in the mid-80s...
Small Talk Railroadin' Lazy Days Moan and Groan, Inc. A Tough Winter Little Daddy Big Ears A Lad an' A Lamp The Kid From Borneo
The following Roach-era talkies were shown in the Bay Area, but were heavily edited...
Bouncing Babies When The Wind Blows Pups is Pups Helping Grandma Bargain Day Dogs is Dogs Spanky For Pete's Sake Washee Ironee Anniversary Trouble Teacher's Beau Little Sinner The Lucky Corner Reunion in Rhythm Three Smart Boys
The following MGM-era films (1938-44) were not shown:
The Little Ranger Baby Blues Ye Olde Minstrels Yale of a Dog
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Post by mtw12055 on Apr 13, 2016 11:08:41 GMT -5
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Post by tboneator64 on Apr 13, 2016 11:36:56 GMT -5
A 20 minute short whittled down to just a hair over 8 minutes? This has to be the most extreme example of editing for all of the Little Rascals/Our Gang comedies! On the other hand, this is the first time that I've seen the A King World Production Pillow background in motion since the late '80s! Thank you very much for sharing this! CHEERS!
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Post by mtw12055 on Apr 13, 2016 11:43:29 GMT -5
A 20 minute short whittled down to just a hair over 8 minutes? This has to be the most extreme example of editing for all of the Little Rascals/Our Gang comedies! On the other hand, this is the first time that I've seen the A King World Production Pillow background in motion since the late '80s! Thank you very much for sharing this! CHEERS! I can understand the want to cut out the Uncle Tom's Cabin stuff and the blackface scenes, but why Buckwheat's whistling act? That was one of the film's highlights, and wasn't the least bit offensive!
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Post by tboneator64 on Apr 13, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -5
A 20 minute short whittled down to just a hair over 8 minutes? This has to be the most extreme example of editing for all of the Little Rascals/Our Gang comedies! On the other hand, this is the first time that I've seen the A King World Production Pillow background in motion since the late '80s! Thank you very much for sharing this! CHEERS! I can understand the want to cut out the Uncle Tom's Cabin stuff and the blackface scenes, but why Buckwheat's whistling act? That was one of the film's highlights, and wasn't the least bit offensive! Regarding the edits for THE PINCH SINGER (1936), my guess is Buckwheat's whistling act was more likely cut for time (Pity, as I agree it is a delight!), with the Blackface "5 Foot 2" musical number with Buckwheat's reaction being cut for more obvious reasons. However, regarding the latter, I do wish to add a curious footnote: During that same '70s era, in which so many edits due to racial sensitivities were made in "The Little Rascals" presentations, TV stations would also air stuff like BABES IN ARMS (1939), with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney's Blackface routine intact. Regarding puddinntane's list of 2 reelers his local San Francisco station wouldn't air, I do recall having viewed edited versions of LITTLE DADDY (Minus ALL of the preceding Church Service footage!) and BIG EARS on our Global Television station in the late 1970s - early 1980s. I believe A LAD AN' A LAMP was also shown during that era. I wasn't aware that certain TV stations omitted THE FIRST SEVEN YEARS from their Little Rascals package. This one aired quite a lot on our station, with the memorable swordfight at least pretty much intact (Including the silhouetted stabbing of Chubby in a rather suspect frontal area!), from what I can recall! CHEERS!
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Post by puddinntane on Apr 13, 2016 19:22:24 GMT -5
I can't imagine why "The First Seven Years" didn't air on KBHK San Francisco. I wasn't aware of the film until reading the Maltin/Bann book. When KTXL Sacramento aired it on Jackie Lynn Taylor's show, it was my first viewing of the film and I was excited to videotape the episode.
I grew up with the King World "pillow" openings/endings, so it's a treat to see them again.
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Post by myhomeo on Apr 14, 2016 15:17:16 GMT -5
Oh, another one: Spanky's bare bottom was edited out of 'For Pete's Sake.'
As for 'Big Ears,' I imagine another reason the short was withdrawn was the dubious message a child can prevent his parents from divorcing by poisoning himself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 18:35:30 GMT -5
Here is a list of shorts that definitely have aired locally on the NBC affiliate in Detroit (where I got my NBC feed in the Canadian province of Newfoundland back in the day) on Sunday mornings during the 1980s and early-1990s:
School's Out Love Business Fly My Kite Shiver My Timbers Readin' and Writin' Spanky Hook and Ladder Free Wheeling Fish Hooky Mush and Milk Bedtime Worries Wild Poses Hi'-Neighbor! For Pete's Sake! The First Round-Up Honky Donkey Washee Ironee Anniversary Trouble Beginner's Luck Teacher's Beau Little Papa The Pinch Singer Divot Diggers The Lucky Corner Second Childhood Bored of Education Pay as You Exit Spooky Hooky Reunion in Rhythm Glove Taps Hearts Are Thumps Three Smart Boys Rushin' Ballet Roamin' Holiday Night 'N' Gales Fishy Tales Framing Youth The Pigskin Palooka Male and Female Our Gang Follies of 1938 Bear Facts Three Men in a Tub Feed 'em and Weep The Awful Tooth Hide and Shriek
I believe I saw "Mike Fright" on the NBC Detroit affiliate only once on June 5, 1988. I am totally uncertain if "Teacher's Pet" even aired in Detroit.
And I remember seeing a small portion of "Sprucin' Up" on the local Rascals' special "Rascals In Love" on February 13, 1988, but I never saw it on Sunday mornings.
If my math is correct, almost 50 shorts, albeit edited, aired in Detroit. And I honestly was surprised when I discovered that Darla Hood appeared in almost half of the shorts that aired in Detroit, though all of her appearances except "Second Childhood" and "Our Gang Follies of 1938" lasted a quarter hour, and most other shorts took up a full half hour.
In the early-1990s, The Little Rascals were aired in Detroit every afternoon for a while, but before the mid-1990s, the shorts moved to late nights as a way to send the series off the schedule most likely due to declining ratings.
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Post by yumyumeatemup on Aug 7, 2018 15:55:14 GMT -5
I was fishing around on IMDB for background info on Beginner's Luck. I was reading a section that had blocks of dialog that I had never heard. One of them dealt with an ending where the MC is driving everyone home after the show with Spanky's grandmother in the front seat and Spanky and him Mom in the back seat. I haven't been able to find this version anywhere. Any ideas on where to find it, if it exists?
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